Curse

Hara Makoto · Apr 26, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

well as you can guess from the title i'm lost whether or not to get a tormented recurve bow or a tormented shortbow . i would be getting a recurve bow , however recently i aquired a dest rec bow , so what do you think i should do ? feedback would be greatly appreciated , seeing as i have no clue about this . if i got a dest bow i could always put zealous mod on ,, so i have a purpose for both rec bows , but what do you think?

ty for taking time to read + respond

Tyla · Apr 26, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Recurve, Shortbows usually need a bad build to be good.

Clarissa F · Apr 26, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Recurve. The most options. For the range of a shortbow you might as well have a spear.

SnipiousMax · Apr 26, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Recurve is what you'll actually use. Short bows aren't actually all that useful.

Pyro maniac · Apr 26, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

recurve, you'll use them (far) more often then shortbows

the savage nornbear · Apr 26, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

recurve 12 char

Keekles · Apr 26, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

recurve bows > all.

MasterSasori · Apr 27, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Recurve is best. Short bow has certain uses and has an overall higher damage output compared to recurve thanks to the higher frequency of firing, but recurve is more ranged and more accurate which is simply better.

Adja1005 · Apr 27, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

The recurve bow is by far the best bow class in the game, short bows are just pointless and as a guildie once said to me "its a nerfed flatbow!".

Luminarus · May 01, 2008, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Recurve definitely...

the only time i bother with a short bow is when using BHA because I normally get relatively close before firing, then i swap to my recurve, or in 1v1 scrims vs a warrior because i know they gonna be up in my face anyways, so better to get the IAS.

Trvth Jvstice · May 01, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

I use a Recurve as my main bow, a vampiric shortbow in my secondary slot, and a flatbow in my 3rd. I switch to the shortbow when I find myself closer to a mob - it also helps with [[Screaming Shot] because it automatically places you in the proper range.

Adja1005 · May 01, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Recurve Bows have a medium range, medium refire rate and a very low bow arc resulting in amazing accuracy and speed. The perfect bow for all round use for mostly every build.

Short Bows however have a very short range, medium accuracy and a fast fire rate which may seem good but is ultimately not that usefull. A Ranger should be attacking enemies range (pun intended) and not be face to face with them.

Personally i would say go for the Recurve Bow and ignore the Short Bow because as Tyla said to make use of a Short Bow you generally have to use a bad build.

Red Sand · May 01, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

I use a Recurve as my main bow, a vampiric shortbow in my secondary slot, and a flatbow in my 3rd. I switch to the shortbow when I find myself closer to a mob

Makes sense to me, probably because I pretty much use the same set up.

Trvth Jvstice · May 02, 2008, 01:22 PM // 13:22

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Originally Posted by Adja1005

Personally i would say go for the Recurve Bow and ignore the Short Bow because as Tyla said to make use of a Short Bow you generally have to use a bad build

Tyla (among others) has made it clear that the only build a ranger should use is BHA, D-Shot, Savage Shot, and possibly Epidemic. I like D Shot, Savage Shot, [[Burning Arrow], [[Screaming Shot], [[Poison Tip Signet], and [[Volley]. D Shot and Savage Shot are enough for interrupts and you're left with a few slots to do some real damage. With a minor rune and leftover points in Wilderness Survival, you get 10 seconds of poison on your enemies.

It doesn't make sense to limit yourself to only one bow. Take 3 because you'll inevitably find yourself close enough to a mob to make good use of a vampiric shortbow.

zling · May 02, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Recurve ftw
Short is just not useful... even at short range the difference between 2.4 fire rate to 2.0 is not that big. Ranger isnt a dps class in the first place, and accuracy>a bit faster fire rate...

Trvth Jvstice · May 02, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by zling

Recurve ftw
Short is just not useful... even at short range the difference between 2.4 fire rate to 2.0 is not that big. Ranger isnt a dps class in the first place, and accuracy>a bit faster fire rate...

So what you're saying is a Ranger should only carry one bow - a Recurve. Imo the faster fire rate on a Shortbow is enough to warrant carrying one for when in shortbow range. The extra dmg when using a Vampiric mod adds a little pressure. The condition applying skills mentioned in my above post aren't for added DPS - they're for added pressure and as I said, 2 interrupts are enough on one character while playing in PVE. If I was filling the role of an interrupt/shutdown Ranger - I would use the standard BHA interrupt build.

EDIT: Again, if you can afford them, Every ranger should carry: A Recurve Bow for Normal use, a Vampiric Short bow for up close use, and a Flatbow for pulling/ranged attacks.

Adja1005 · May 02, 2008, 04:36 PM // 16:36

If enemies come within shortbow range then i'm more inclined to use a flatbow instead of the shortbow. Atleast the flatbow can hit at long range where as with a shortbow your limited to being in close range.

Really there is no use for shortbows when the other bow types out perform them.

Red Sand · May 02, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

If I was unable to swap out weapons, I would take only a Recurve. A Recurve is like an adjustable wrench: whatever the job, you can probably make it work.

But just as no good mechanic should limit themselves to just one wrench in their tool box, no good Ranger should limit themsleves to just one bow.

I'm a man that likes to use the right tool for the job: I bring a Recurve for most of my archery duties, a Flatbow for when I need to reach out and touch someone, and a Short bow for when they get in my face.

But you guys probably know what you're doing.

Tyla · May 02, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

Tyla (among others) has made it clear that the only build a ranger should use is BHA, D-Shot, Savage Shot, and possibly Epidemic. I like D Shot, Savage Shot, [[Burning Arrow], [[Screaming Shot], [[Poison Tip Signet], and [[Volley]. D Shot and Savage Shot are enough for interrupts and you're left with a few slots to do some real damage. With a minor rune and leftover points in Wilderness Survival, you get 10 seconds of poison on your enemies.

It doesn't make sense to limit yourself to only one bow. Take 3 because you'll inevitably find yourself close enough to a mob to make good use of a vampiric shortbow.

And who said that?
Recurve sees the most use because of it's power.
It can be used anywhere, and if you need to snipe down targets or pull, Longbows or Flatbows do that job.

Where do Shortbows come into the mix? Never. Their use, as said, makes it more worth bringing a Spear build.

Trvth Jvstice · May 02, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Where do Shortbows come into the mix? Never. Their use, as said, makes it more worth bringing a Spear build.

Imagine, if you will, you're playing your Ranger alongside your Hero/Hench pals. The mob you're attacking closes and you find your Ranger in close range to the pve baddies - they are ignoring your mele buddies and are now attacking your Cynn and Ogden. At this point do you want to be able to do more damage by switching to a Vampiric Shortbow, or continue as you are - knowing that you are doing less damage using a Recurve bow? And-Switching to a spear would disable your bow attacks.

Why would you ever opt for doing less damage when you can do more damage by simply switching to a different bow?